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Gregory: But I did read it and it doesn't exclude the Executive Branch.
Isn't the Executive Branch part of the government?
Snow: Now you're just speaking gibberish. But let's say, for argument's
sake, this (gestures finger quotes) "Executive Branch," as you call it,
is part of the (gestures finger quotes) "government." If that
hypothetical were applied, then sure, the order would apply to the
Executive Branch, but not necessarily to those in the Executive Branch.
Gregory: But when the president says "government," and doesn't exclude
anyone in that government, he'd have to mean all of government, wouldn't
he?
Snow: You're not saying you can read minds, are you David? Because the
only one who can read the President's mind is the President. And he does
so every day after finishing his morning bike ride.
Gregory: But in the President's order, it distinctly mentions any number
of times, that the President and the Vice President fall under this
order.
Snow: He also said we would find WMD in Iraq. Just because we didn't
doesn't mean he didn't intend to find them there. And if that didn't
raise any red flags I don't see why this should be any different. Look.
When the founding father drew up the two branches of government...
Gregory: Three.
Snow: ...All right, I'll play your little game. Three. But they didn't intend
to have three. Originally there were only two. The Legislative, which was
intended to approve of every idea the country's king offered -- much like
in President Bush's first six years.
Gregory: We don't have a king.
Snow: Sure, David. Sure. The second branch of government was the
Judicial, which was to be used whenever President Bush, or any leader,
for that matter, was not actually elected. But, as nature intended, the
two branches became very fond of each other and with one thing leading to
another, soon an adorable bundle of joy, the Executive Branch, was
delivered to the country. So you see, it's not what the founding fathers
intended, but it happened anyway.
Gregory: But now you're just saying the opposite. That there is an
Executive Branch.
Snow: Yes and no. But in actuality, no. The President doesn't argue that
there is great disagreement in the country as to whether there is or is
not, an Executive Branch, but there is no question that if there is an
Executive Branch, it is or is not a necessarily part of the Executive
Branch, that may or may not exist.
Ann Compton: The order says that "Our democratic principles require that
the American people be informed of the activities of their government."
Doesn't the President intend to adhere to his own stated democratic
principles?
Snow: His democratic principles, yes. But I'm sure you'll all agree that
everyone has their own concept of "democratic principles." That's why we
call this a democracy.
Compton. Technically, it's a republic.
Snow: Not during a time of war. Richard?
Richard Wolfe: Rahm Emanuel is threatening to pull the Vice President's
funding if he doesn't comply with ISOO's request.
Snow: You know, it's a lot like when we said that Saddam threw the UN
inspectors out of Iraq, when it was actually us who told them to leave.
Is there any question that Saddam intended to throw them out sooner or
later? The President just didn't want to wait and see Saddam's intentions
end up being a mushroom cloud. If Representative Emanuel intends to
undermine the troops and place this country in the middle of a nuclear
war, well, perhaps he should just say that.
Wolfe: That has nothing to do with what Emanuel said.
Snow: Exactly my point. Terry...
Terry Moran: Henry Waxman says that what the President and Vice President
are doing is unconstitutional.
Snow: Guys, how many times do you intend to take out the trash but
something comes up and you don't? I'm sure Congressman Waxman has
forgotten more than once. You're not going to create a constitutional
crisis over garbage, are you? Jeez, guys. It's not like the President
were making a signing statement. Look, it's very similar to when a young
man tells his girlfriend's father that his "intentions are honorable."
Just because he says it doesn't mean that's what he intends. If you're
going to hold the President liable for what he says, you better be ready
to throw millions of young men in jail just because they want to have a
little fun. Think of the President's executive order as just his way of
having a little fun with your daughter. And if you can't trust the
President with your daughter, who can you trust?
The President hopes that you're all clear on what is just a simple
misunderstanding -- of yours. At least that's his intention. Okay. I see
lots of hands and I intend to call on everyone of you. See you tomorrow.
Award-winning TV writer, Steve Young, is author of "Great Failures of the Extremely Sucessful" (www.greatfailure.com)
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